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No Free Lunch Podcast – The Death Of Cookies – Or Not

The Future of Cookies, Tracking, and Digital Privacy with Andre Steenekamp In this episode of No Free Lunch, we delve into the evolving landscape of digital cookies, data privacy, and the impact of AI on online targeting. Join me your host Greg Stewart as I chat with Andre Steenekamp, a seasoned digital media strategist, as we

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No Free Lunch Podcast – The Death Of Cookies – Or Not

24 Feb 2026

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The Future of Cookies, Tracking, and Digital Privacy with Andre Steenekamp

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In this episode of No Free Lunch, we delve into the evolving landscape of digital cookies, data privacy, and the impact of AI on online targeting. Join me your host Greg Stewart as I chat with Andre Steenekamp, a seasoned digital media strategist, as we unpack what the future holds for marketers navigating the complex environment of digital marketing with the rise of AI disrupting the advertising Industry.

This episode offers valuable insights for marketers, business owners, and anyone interested in the future of digital privacy and data-driven marketing.

Key Topics Covered:

  • The timeline and reasons behind Google’s decision to phase out cookies by 2024
  • How cookies track user behavior and the privacy concerns involved
  • The influence of laws like GDPR and the Poppy Act on tracking practices
  • The role of AI in search, targeting, and data collection
  • Strategies for marketers: shifting from cookies to first-party, zero-party data, and CRM
  • The importance of human intelligence amidst technological disruption
  • Practical advice for businesses to adapt to the cookie-less future

Listen to the Conversation Here

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction: Cookies and the upcoming changes in digital tracking
02:20 – Why Google decided to eliminate cookies and the market impact
03:42 – What exactly is a cookie and how does it track behavior?
04:51 – Privacy concerns and invasiveness of tracking technologies
06:21 – The legality and regulation of digital tracking worldwide
07:48 – How AI shifts the digital landscape and search behaviors
09:22 – The decline in search traffic and implications for marketers
11:48 – The power of predictive analytics and AI’s potential
13:40 – Future legal frameworks and the need for new digital solutions
15:32 – Moving towards first-party and zero-party data strategies
16:46 – Impact of AI on search marketing and the importance of human input
18:03 – Building your own data channels and managing customer relationships
19:46 – Practical steps for businesses in a post-cookie world
22:31 – The importance of strategic patience and avoiding knee-jerk reactions
24:51 – The role of AI as a tool, not a replacement, in marketing
27:48 – The enduring need for human capital and critical thinking in marketing

Key Quotes:

Andre Steenkamp – Managing Director – The Strategy Room
  1. “Google knows more about them than their mother.”
  2. “AI is a tool that we should use to enhance what we do. It’s not going to replace anything.”
  3. “The enduring need for human capital and critical thinking in marketing.”

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Reporting for Business Tech Africa on the funding, tools and strategy shaping the continent's founders and SMEs.

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